I decided that I couldn't take this seriously after looking at your character name. I almost feel obligated to throw out a "**** or gtfo".

That's like saying "we need to eradicate racism". Pretty noble goal, but meaningless platitudes aren't going to do it. The real perpetrators, the ones you're really hoping to address, will never see this thread. Nor will they ever be interested in having an intellectual discussion. You just can't use logic to defeat someone who's so willfully ignorant of it.

You just stereotyped all men who play this game, btw. Moreso than anyone in this thread has done to women. You didn't even imply, you outright stated that men aren't capable of knowing the difference between NPC banter and real people, and that men are apparently stupid enough for the 5 total lines of dialogue in which this is mentioned to effect our entire outlook on gender relations.

The only bigot here is you.

Tch, see, I knew I should have put /sarcasm in there.

She said, outright, that the attitude of men in this game is a result of the tutorial saying "sissy girl". I'd like to think most men have more cognitive ability than that though.

And I can guarantee you, that any "sexist" things you may hear on voicechat, did not start with less than 10 lines of NPC dialogue. "sammich" jokes, didn't evolve from things a tutorial pirate says.

If they do that, as Ruze mentioned above, it's a learned trait designed to perform damage control based on previous bad experiences. That's just how humans behave.

Once bitten...

I'd debate that actually. It's a far cry from just saying upfront "no girls", to actually still having the interviews to give someone a chance in the first place..

And once again, you reveal your misandry. You are the outsider. Why should any group be anything but wary of someone who can, and comes from, a group that in their own personal experiences causes trouble?

"the men can't keep it in their pants"? So of course, it can't be the kind of drama caused by the person who has done their best to jump on me for saying I don't tolerate people who try to censor me in chat, and had a bunch of people back her up on that, right?

The mere assumption that the theoretical female is always innocent, and is being oppressed, is deliberate self victimization mentality at it's finest. There assumption that men are the ones always at fault because of their "jealousy, envy etc," exposes your actual prejudice.

See, what all that means is, that if you are joining a group of people, let's say, ten of them.

You have a problem with how, let's say, 8 of them behave.

Are they the problem, or are you?

You are, because you came into a group and are asking 8 people to change how they behaved before you got there, just for your sake.

The gist of this is: Find the aspects of the game she finds fun, and work on those.

The whole discussion by its self is sexist

Walking in station & char customization would attract more female gamers as well as more integration with station enviroment and inter avatar interaction. Call me a sexist pig but I bet a lot of girls would be intrested in Space Barbie while a lot of boys are intrested in space war currently eve is 99% space war & only 1% space barbie.

Here's how you get more women into EVE...continue iterating and fixing the sandbox, adding more features that go along with flying spaceships. That'll attract the women to EVE, who want to play an EVE game.

And to your last point. I'm not defending anyone's right to be a **** to anyone else (although that is still their right as players, let the mods fall where they may). What I'm saying is, that I can understand someone wanting to remove a disruption from their social order.

he people who literally can't be asked to knock off something that is directed(there's the key word) at another person, needs to grow up some. But when it's "Person X said '*****' once, I want him gone cause that's sexist!!11!", no, I don't back that kind of person up.

There are biological factors hardwired into both sexes beyond the physical. Gender differences are hardwired too, like it or not. Women make children so they were hardwired to be nurturers. Men were wired for aggression simply because as the (generally) stronger sex they were set up to hunt and fight. Where the struggles come into play is in refuting it because you think that means settling for it.